Let me start with the mistake I see most often. It does not catch careless people. It catches people who did their homework.
They read about the Roth five year rule. They understood it. They counted their years and some were still wrong, because there is a second test that most explanations skip entirely. Here is how I put it in Chapter 12:
I want to dispel a common misconception that comes from AI searches, which emphasizes paying attention to the five-year Roth clock while ignoring the age requirement.
Two tests, not one
Under current rules, withdrawing earnings from a Roth IRA tax-free requires two conditions at the same time. The account has to have been open at least five years. And you have to be at least fifty-nine and a half, or meet one of a small number of other qualifying conditions.
Both. Not just one.
My colleagues at Ed Slott and Company call it checking both boxes, and I have never found a better way to say it. Someone who is 61 with a Roth opened two years ago has met the age test, but not the holding test. Someone who is 54 with a Roth opened a decade ago has met the holding test but not the age test.
Neither one has checked both boxes. Withdraw earnings before both conditions are met and those earnings may be subject to income tax and a penalty.
The part that catches careful people
Here is the piece that surprises the diligent. It is in the closing pages of the book because I wanted it to be the last thing a reader remembers:
Someone over age 59 ½ could have a 401(k) Roth for seven (7) or more years and think that if they roll that into a Roth IRA, they’ve satisfied every five-year clock. But that’s not true. If this person never had a Roth IRA before, a brand-new clock starts on the Roth IRA when they roll it over! And they must wait another 5 years before any subsequent earnings in the Roth IRA are tax free.
Read that twice if it did not land. Most investors roll a 401(k) over when they leave an employer. It is routine housekeeping. And someone who contributed to a Roth 401(k) for seven years, rolled it into a Roth IRA, and then wanted to take earnings out may find they may not have the required years of seasoning.
Your five-year clock has to be started in the IRA world. It does not start inside a qualified plan like a Roth 401(k).
Start the clock
If someone takes only one thing from this, I would want it to be this. Start the clock ASAP.
Open a Roth IRA right away, even if you cannot put much in it. If you no longer have compensation wages and cannot contribute, convert a small amount from a traditional IRA instead. The dollar amount matters far less than the date.
It’s called the forever clock, because once it is satisfied it applies across your entire Roth environment. Someone who opens a small Roth at fifty-five and leaves it mostly alone has satisfied that clock by the time they turn sixty. If a much larger Roth 401(k) balance rolls in after that, it lands in an account whose clock is already done and whose owner is already past fifty-nine and a half. Both boxes checked.
You cannot decide at 64 that you wish you had opened one at 57. There is no way to buy back time on a holding period.
Why this sits underneath the conversion question
These rules matter most to households thinking about Roth conversions, and conversions usually come up in the years between the end of full-time work and the start of required distributions at 73 or age 75. Those years often produce the lowest taxable income a household will have as adults.
So there is a particular kind of pressure. The window is open, it is finite, and doing it well takes knowing two things. What bracket the year lands in, and where the clock currently stands.
None of this is an argument that a conversion is right for you. Sometimes it is not. A conversion accelerates tax, and accelerating tax only makes sense under the right conditions, beginning with long-term planning. It is an argument against evaluating the question one year at a time.
Three questions worth answering
When was your first Roth account of any kind opened?
Were any Roth 401(k) balances rolled over? When and into what?
How many years remain before your required distributions begin?
Those three answers largely determine what is still available and what has already been closed off. They take about twenty minutes to establish and years to fix if done incorrectly.
A last thought
I have had a version of the same conversation many times. Someone learns a rule after the point at which knowing it early on would have helped, and asks why nobody mentioned it sooner. I have never had a good answer to that question, and it is a large part of why I wrote the book.
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Nothing here is tax advice for your situation. Please speak with your own tax and legal advisors about your circumstances.
Quotations are from Outwitting the IRS by Randy Stoltz, pages 153 and 171. Roth clock terminology draws on material from Ed Slott and Company as cited in the book.
